tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post115337109132398698..comments2023-11-03T05:55:53.586-07:00Comments on Full Court Presby: New Wineskins Report 2 - Wednesday NightUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post-1153494279294512972006-07-21T08:04:00.000-07:002006-07-21T08:04:00.000-07:00Presbyterian Gal,Just ask the pastor who told you ...Presbyterian Gal,<BR/><BR/>Just ask the pastor who told you that:<BR/>"Then where will our future pastors come from, if the denomination and all of its agencies and seminaries turn to the radical left?"<BR/><BR/>You can't rely on Fuller forever! Sooner or later, the Lousiville Lefts will shut that down. They will force pastors to go to the institutional seminaries and in 10 or 20 years....YOUR CHURCH will have a liberal pastor!!<BR/><BR/>Sooner or later, we will reap locally what we sow in the national church. That's a fact of history.<BR/><BR/>See what that pastor says to that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post-1153444892562026242006-07-20T18:21:00.000-07:002006-07-20T18:21:00.000-07:00Pastor Lance, are there any Los Angeles area churc...Pastor Lance, are there any Los Angeles area churches responding to the NWI? I am experiencing a response of "I don't care what happens at the GA. It has nothing to do with how the individual congregations operate. It does not affect you at all".(this from a pastor who I feel is a truly righteous man). I truly believe that if the PCUSA congregations follow the GA decisions that there will be a "wrath of God" consequence. I've had dreams about it. Thank you for your hard work updating us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post-1153428759685702132006-07-20T13:52:00.000-07:002006-07-20T13:52:00.000-07:00I also want to thank Pastor Lance for his updates....I also want to thank Pastor Lance for his updates. I look forward to reading each one. <BR/><BR/>I agree with Toby in principle but let's wait until the end of the convocation to decide whether or not NWI intends to be truly Reformed or generally evangelical.<BR/><BR/>This group has certainly done some of the right things in finding our way forward - the 21 days of prayer and repentance that proceeded the NWI convocation, the emphasis on worship during the convocation, and the daily private devotions and prayer that continue now that it has begun. <BR/><BR/>I also agree we don't want to leave just to find ourselves in another theological dilemma in a few years. The cure should not be worse than the "disease."<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, I do not think those of us with "classical" or traditional Presbyterian beliefs can continue in the PCUSA as it currently is. Too many folks with apostate and heretical beliefs are in positions of power that can and do self-perpetuate. From a human standpoint, fighting this "stacked deck" would not be easy for those who choose to stay. Only God can revive and reform this part of His Church. Will God revive or judge the PCUSA? This is the question we face. <BR/><BR/>If conservative individuals, congregations and even presbyteries leave in large numbers, will there be enough left to make a difference?<BR/><BR/>I echo Jon - may the Lord provide wisdom, love and courage!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post-1153414030834439962006-07-20T09:47:00.000-07:002006-07-20T09:47:00.000-07:00Is it your sense that most people present are read...Is it your sense that most people present are ready to leave the PCUSA, or is it just the New Wineskins leadership?Gruntledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14377809238377382438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post-1153413498944229942006-07-20T09:38:00.000-07:002006-07-20T09:38:00.000-07:00Thanks for this detailed report!This is very distu...Thanks for this detailed report!<BR/><BR/>This is very disturbing to me. Here;s why:<BR/>NO mention of the Reformed faith? None?<BR/><BR/>What do they want the church to be?<BR/><BR/>I adhere to a faith that is Reformed because that is biblical. I joined a Presbyterian church--on purpose-- to be Reformed in my faith, not generically evangelical.<BR/><BR/>Based on what you report, there will be no way that I could ever join the NWI. That would be leaving the frying pan to end up in the fire. What is the point of abandoning one non-Reformed denonination to end up in another non-Reformed one?<BR/><BR/>For me, theology matters. And the Reformed faith, reformed according to Scripture, is what I will stand upon.<BR/><BR/>May God bless your efforts, but they will have to be without me.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post-1153405031872021752006-07-20T07:17:00.000-07:002006-07-20T07:17:00.000-07:00Thanks for the updates. I look forward to reading...Thanks for the updates. I look forward to reading your report of the rest of the meeting.<BR/><BR/>I'm hoping there will be a list New Wineskin congregations maintained as I expect my current one would not be following this path.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post-1153401246697196052006-07-20T06:14:00.000-07:002006-07-20T06:14:00.000-07:00My thanks as well for taking the time to report ba...My thanks as well for taking the time to report back. Very interesting developments...Jody Harringtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08031378214797420014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post-1153378811494858482006-07-20T00:00:00.000-07:002006-07-20T00:00:00.000-07:00Thanks, Pastor Lance, for keeping us all updated. ...Thanks, Pastor Lance, for keeping us all updated. I am linking your posts on the SaveHollywoodPres website. May the Lord provide wisdom, love, and courage!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com