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Recently our Synod sponsored a training session for Olympia, Seattle, and Alaska presbytery communications folks, looking toward a new open source platform for web sites (DotNetNuke). There is also a regional and national denominational group called the Communicators' Network that provides an opportunity to share knowledge on various communications strategies and techniques. All of which is not to say that the denomination can do a whole lot better at providing this information and assisting local churches in using it. But it does mean they haven't missed that boat completely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post-1149539151911237232006-06-05T13:25:00.000-07:002006-06-05T13:25:00.000-07:00I am not sure who you have been reading, but there...I am not sure who you have been reading, but there is no such thing to my knowledge as a "postmodern generation." You may be talking about Gen X or Gen Y (people like myself born between 1961 and 2001), but to call a generation "postmodern" is to abuse and misuse the term. Postmodernity is a philosophy that is used by a number of thinkers, artists, architects, theologians and so forth of a variety of ages. The postmodern age began (generally speaking) in the 1960's in France and is really just now catching on in theological circles. It has a variety of meanings and really cannot be faithfully defined other than by what it is not. Postmoderns are people of all ages who think and experience the world through a particular form of philosophy and theology. <BR/><BR/>The emergent church is but one off-shoot that attempts to incorporate postmodern thought into a style of worship. Mostly, it is a rejection of the megachurch movement and a search for authentic community by returning to premodern ideas of spirituality and discipleship. They do some wonderful things with worship and the incorporation of aesthetics, I don't believe that everything they do is the panacea for what ails the Presbyterian Church. To suggest otherwise is thoroughly eschew one of the primary tenets of postmodernity, that of contextuality and the valid experience of the individual. <BR/><BR/>To say that traditional worship is stagnant and that the hymns are merely politically correct leftovers of a bygone era is a naive suggestion at best. The hymnal and its supplement "Sing the Faith" provide excellent contemporary hymns and songs from a variety of cultures. Furthermore, another supplement, provided at a GA a few years back (Lift Up Your Hearts) gives another resource for songs that speak of the global nature of the church (a thoroughly postmodern concept). Certainly there are praise and worship hymns that are not included. Some of them for good reason, such as theology, language, and yes, politics. However, that doesn't mean you can't sing'em if they fit the context of your church. <BR/><BR/>I attend a church that is liturgically Presbyterian to the core and postmodern in its philosophy and theology. It is an active socially responsible community with a lively music program that sings most of its songs out of the hymnal. Granted it has more resources than the medium and smaller congregations in the PC(USA), but it is attracting many people in their twenties and thirties as it goes about its mission in the world. Sometimes knowing who you are rather than trying to be everything everybody wants you to be is a more authentic way of doing church. The "chicken little, the sky is falling" theology only gets you so far. Something substantive has to back up the programs, or else the experience is meaningless and trivial. Postmodernity is not about popularity, nor is it about casualness, you can go to any local megachurch and find those qualities and these congregations usually operate out of a modern theological mindset. <BR/><BR/>Furthermore, it is interesting to me that most of your suggestions deal with appearance rather than substance. There is no celebration of what might be "right" with your church, only this incessant need for change. I would challenge you to read more about what postmodernity "is," theologically, liturgically, and philosophically. I know, from reading prior posts, that you are frustrated with the written word and its use in the church. I share some of that frustration; however, I also value the writings and the beauty that is present in those same words.<BR/><BR/>To end, I want to offer one suggestion. You came to my blog not too long ago and lambasted me for being a theological elitist. You read one post. In my response, I invited you to return and read that post in its entire context as well as others that illuminate my theology and interactions with others. To my knowledge you have not returned nor have you continued to engage in a conversation. Blogs are participatory entities that live and die through "conversations." I appreciate an engagement in a conversation around differences of opinion, rather than a single post that tells me I am wrong and that I need to change or be irrelevant. Conversation, experience, discussion and change are dialogues between the self and another, not diatribes and then absence. <BR/><BR/>I wish you well in your ministry and am glad that your readings thus far have challenged you to step out of your comfort zone and explore the multiple meanings of liturgy and worship. I wish you the best.<BR/><BR/>grace and peaceniebuhrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05101844911569785828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22981256.post-1149277328809490472006-06-02T12:42:00.000-07:002006-06-02T12:42:00.000-07:00Great post. I am constantly amazed at how behind t...Great post. I am constantly amazed at how behind the national denomination seems to be.Jody Harringtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08031378214797420014noreply@blogger.com